IF?...... you were a decedent of the 1600 Columbus Mayflower group what number of generation would you be?

This has nothing to do with ethnic. This is a question for whomevers ancestors arrived here from where ever....centuries ago. I beleive my family immigrated from Ireland in one of the potatoe famines. What generation does that make me? I have also been told we are "Black Irish", which I never understood until someone told me that during the crusades, Spanish peoples, with moorish blood returned with the crusaders, and intermarried/grated with the irish. So, Time wise, only--no ethnic stuff thank you--- what generation (I always thought it must be close to30) would I be, and if you can't be bothered, or you all ready know, what generation of North American are you? (Pls. no. digs from Inuit, or Native--I already know that.

IF?...... you were a decedent of the 1600 Columbus Mayflower group what number of generation would you be?
Generations are typically every 20 years. Generation X is labeled such because it is the 10th American generation...these children were born between 1966 %26amp; 1986 (although the heart of Gen X was born between '69 %26amp; '75). Thus Gen X, being born 200 years after the revolution, is the 10th American generation.





So to answer your question, if you were a decedent of the Mayflower (nothing to do with Columbus) that landed in 1620...you would be the 19th generation in this nation.





If you were a decendant of the Irish Potatoe Famine (1846) you be the 8th generation.





By the way...black Irish means that you have darker hair %26amp; eyes then the traditional Irish. The theory of black Irish is that in 1588 20 ships of the Spanish Armada wrecked off the coast of Ireland. This theory however has been challenged and the current theory is that black Irish are decendants of nomads that immigrated to Ireland over 2,500 years ago. Genetic testing has recently backed up this claim.





EDIT: Women normally had children in their late teens and early 20s...that is why historically generations were counted every 20 years. I think actual generations, because couples are having children later in life, are now 25-30 years and may soon stretch to 30-35 years.





To the other half of your question...my family arrived in 1752, so I'm in the 21st generation.





EDIT AGAIN: James your first few sentances don't make much sence. When the parents give birth at 20 to a child that is the start of the next generation. When that child gives birth to a grandchild 20 years later that is the 3rd generation. Thus every generation is 20 years apart. Of course every family is different, however the consensus is that American generations are labeled every 20 years.
Reply:It will depend completely on how old your ancestors were when they married and had children. It makes a big difference if there was even a 5 year variance. For example, some people talk about their great-great grandfathers serving in the Civil War, but my great-great grandfather only died in 1967, and I'm 44!
Reply:Because it takes about 40 years for a human generation to reproduce (the parents being around 20 and raising the children till they are around 20), we are going on the eleventh generation since the Mayflower landed in 1620. This is about right. My mother had an ancestor on the Mayflower from whom her family is descended on her father's side. She was ten generations from that ancestor.





But, sometimes generations get out of whack. For example, my great-grandfather fought in the Civil War. But he did not marry until 1884 when he was 43 (to a 16 year old girl). They had six children of whom my grandfather was the youngest. So I am only three generations removed from the Civil War even though it ended over 140 years ago.





Now about the "Dark" Irish: There is a region is Northern Spain where the people have pale skin, jet black hair, and (surprisingly) blue eyes. This same color combination can also be found on the west coast of Ireland. Irish women who have this color combination are often referred to as "Galway girls" for the main city (Galway) in that area.





One of my grandmothers had that coloring and actually came from Galway (as a "mail order" bride). I have met two women in my life who looked just like her. Both were from Spain! Grandmother called herself Dark Irish (for the hair) rather than Black Irish. She described "Black Irish" as a derogatory term that was used against a bunch of different people.
Reply:If you went from Columbus, we'd be around 18 generations, I think. Isn't it 20-30 years in between? From the Mayflower, it's more like 13. Or more. People had kids earlier.
Reply:Well, it is really going to vary. If you are Irish, it is likely that your ancestors married later than usual, because the custom there has been that a man does not marry until he is financially well-off enough to support his wife as well as her father has supported her. Even some time ago, Irish men's age of first marriage averaged over 30. Women did not marry that late, but later than in most other countries.


My grandfather (son of an Irish immigrant) married at 28, his two brothers in their 40s!


Two of my 9-times-great-grandfathers came to America in 1635, 15 years after the Pilgrims. That makes me part of the 11th generation born in America. In some other families, where they customarily married at younger ages, 13th or 14th generation would not be unusual, I suppose.


And I think Downriver Dave is on the right track about the "Black" or "Dark" Irish.


It is also the case that the very prolific progenitor Niall of the Nine Hostages (the first High King of Ireland) had so many wives, concubines, etc., that about 12% of all men who trace their paternal ancestry to Ireland are descended from this one man (including me, DNA indicates).


Oh, and by the way there is a big difference between a "decedent" and a "descendant."
Reply:A generation is 30 to 35 years for humans per the Encarta dictionary. The Mayflower landed in 1620. That means there have been approximately 11 generations since that landing.





Columbus landed in 1492. There have been about 15 generations since then.
Reply:SINCE DECEDENT MEANS SOMEONE WHO HAS DIED IT WOULD MAKE ME DEAD.
Reply:Three to four generations per century.


So you'd be about the twelfth generation from the Mayflower.


Don't know why you brought Columbus into it.


Black Irish has nothing to do with colour. It means bog-trotters rather than respectable people.
Reply:The number of generations can only be calculated if you did some genealogical research into your family history, to be precise.
Reply:I believe Columbus arrived on the Pinta, Niña, and Santa Maria, and it was the pilgrims who arrived on the mayflower.