Since they never got permission to immigrate from the Americans. Its like Mexico giving permissions to the Mexicans to USA. IT does not make sense that now these Europeans illegals are trying to deny citizenship to illegal Mexican Kids. Hypocrisy at its best!!
Can we deny citizenship to all descendants of the MAYFLOWER?
What is it about "The sovereign nation of the United States" that you cannot get? This isnt about long dead pilgrims, natives and conquistadors... this is about a modern country's laws being desecrated and violated.
Before you open your mouth... tell Mexico to let its illegals from Guatemala and the rest of South America into its lands first. Follow what you preach before YOU and your illegal friends start looking like a hypocrite.
You knowwhat... its precisely treasonous cowards like you, not the illegals, who are ruining the United States.
Reply:The statement/question made is far from hypocrisy. The pilgrims are dead! Let's just round up the present day illegal aliens and deny them rights in America.. Woo hoo.. I am for that.
Reply:boy you must be smoking some bad weed to believe the bs your posting tonight?
Reply:Nobody would be running here for a "better life", if it werent for those europeans who created this country and got it up and running. This would be one giant Mexico if it werent for those europeans, and then where would all these present day illegals go? Invading Canada? LOL
Reply:Everyone immigrated from somewhere. Stop dreaming about the past and get with the times. Deport all illegals.
Reply:Europeans made this country yeah right!! I t's more like they stole from other countrys and made themselves greedy , thieving sons on bi*thches~! Yeah they started this country by stealing other peoples wealth!!!
Reply:Your question is ignorance at its best.
The Native Americans never had a unified country that encompassed the territory America does now. The European settlers/illegal immigrants came and MADE the country. How on earth can they follow rules that didn't exist? There are laws now, there were none before.
Try to find a more current example.
Reply:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzI7zE3_...
WHEN YOU START A COUNTRY BY THIEVES, AND LIES YOU WILL END UP EXTINCT!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx-8eEX-i...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H3MPJnw6...
Reply:Actually, the Pilgrims had legitimate backing on the part of the Dutch gov't, thru a joint-stock venture, and when they got here, they received help and approval from the Natives that were here. So, your analogy is completely invalid. Point is, there are laws in order to limit the influx of diseased, uneducated, criminal, and mentally unstable immigrants. There are enough of these people here as it is. The government just wants to know who's coming over the borders, and has the right to restrict immigration to protect the safety and economy of our country. Everyone has an equal chance to come to this country legally. I have no problem with immigration. I just want to be able to pick and choose...
Reply:get over it already. they are dead. go dig them up and deport their a sses. lord, grow up.
Reply:THE INDIANS HAD NO SENSE OF OWNERSHIP, THERE FOR THEY FELT NO RIGHT TO GIVE PERMISSION, OR DENIAL OF SAID PERMISSION. THERE FOR YOUR QUESTION AND EXAMPLE MAKE NO SENSE. DO SOME READING BEFORE PUTIN DOWN THIS STUFF
Reply:even native americans were immigrants at some point brainiac!!!
Reply:It's too late,they already caused their damage.
Reply:you have a wonderful point
Reply:There were no pre existing laws to break now there are get over it. Illegal is illegal.
Reply:Thanks...I quite agree with you. The only known non-immigrants in this country were the Indians- so for us black, white, Asians, Latino folks etc to speak about other aspiring immigrants as if they are criminals is just wrong...agree there are rules now. There were rules then too- the head Indian determined who lived where- sort of allocate resources etc....we killed him and everyone else that opposed us- so should we say it's right for Mexican immigrants to kill us all, just because they can? No, the law forbids! The least we can do is see this from our President' view point, let them stay but they must be ID'd and should pay into the system like the rest of us- if nothing else, that' one of the brightest idea Mr. Prez has come up with. Good Question!
Reply:have you ever heard of thanksgiving
and those Indians gave up the land for casinos
REMBER read a history book next time moron
You also seem to forget who wrote the same rules that you are making a point out of
you can not bite the hand that feeds you
Remember the men who died to give you all this freedom
I will give you one guess where they came from
Reply:Please clarify which "Americans" held controlling authority over the area encompassing Plymouth in 1620.
Please also detail how the passengers of the Mayflower would have reasonably ascertained the validity of said controlling authority.
Include proof that the controlling authority you name did not, in fact, become so by invading the area and conquering a previously existing tribal people. Provide at least 5000 years of historical records to substantiate this.
If your named controlling authority did, in fact, assume that status by right of conquest, then either
A) They are disqualified from consideration as the rightful controlling authority (thus we stand Darwin on his head),
or
B) There is no precedent preventing any later arrivals from assuming the status of controlling authority by similar right of conquest.
If I come to your house, kill you and take all your stuff, Higher Law aside, the only reason it's wrong is because we have a nation that has structure built upon a legal framework that includes laws that define what I did as being illegal.
Apart from that nation and it's legal framework, if I'm tougher and stronger, and/or have more firepower than you, I can show up any day of the week at your place and do whatever the heck I want, and you can't do jack to stop me.
Fair? Yes, or Darwin's a liar.
So, man up! It's nothing more than "survival of the fittest". You can't get all touchy-feely and weepy-eyed about the fallout of human conquest and advocate Darwin all at the same time; it's a package deal. You want one, you get both.
So, now, SINCE the Mayflower landed, and history unfolded, and the land has become the United Staes of America, and there is NOW an established legal framework that defines what is legal and what is not, we now see that the totality of the required structure is in place to validate the authority of the laws that define that coming into the country without permission is NOT legal.
We got the land. We built the nation. Once permission for entry was NOT required, but now, generally for reasons of control of the public health, it is. You want in, you stand in line with everyone else who's playing by the rules and get permission or get lost.
[takes deep breath]
NOW, do I think that getting permission is a whole lot more difficult and expensive than it needs to be?
ABSOLUTELY!
There's no reason it needs to take years and hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to get a Green Card and get on the road to legitimate United States citizenship.
But, THAT is a separate problem from the question you asked, the answer to which is a resounding "NO!"
P.S. -- Fifty-five years of mostly amicable relations between the Wampanoag and the Pilgrims came to a violent end in1675 when the Wampanoag delcared war on the white settlers over resentment about the concept of land ownership. Within a year, the Wampanoag chief was dead, and the New England tribes were vanquished and brought under control of the growing colonies.
Learn more about the Wampanoag at their official tribal website:
http://mashpeewampanoagtribe.com/
Reply:As I remember the ones in the mayflower decimated the natives then, so the inmigration thing with the Mexicans is just a line to the story.
Reply:I think is just fair. Unless we admit that is OK to invade any country if they can not defend themselves.
Reply:I always thought the earth belonged to us all. It is very unfair to put up barriers of any kind but we need to be practical. I say, remove anyone's necessity to leave their place of birth by making a heaven of all parts of the world and some of our poblems will be solved.
Reply:Yes, my people deny you all citizenship; back you all go to wherever your people came from.
We want outr casinos filled with the real Native Americans.
PS Mexicans are Native Americans too and they were all here in the US before we took Texas Territories from them
Sunday, May 16, 2010
Did the pilgrims have the Bubonic Plague on the Mayflower?
i need an answer in detail
Did the pilgrims have the Bubonic Plague on the Mayflower?
No. The bubonic plague is nearly 100% contagious in close quarters like they had aboard ship and the symptoms that colonists died from did not match those of plague.
From what I've read, the fever that killed most of the colonists (over 50 the first winter) was characterized by high fever and delirium and lethargy. There's no mention of coughing and pneumonia. I'm not sure the specific illness has ever been identified, but it wasn't bubonic plague which is easily recognized and has different symptoms.
Reply:I know of no reason to think they would have, it isn't recorded that they did, and I also don't know of any outbreak of plague in the colony. The Bubonic Plague was eradicated in London shortly after the Mayflower's voyage by the Great Fire.
Did the pilgrims have the Bubonic Plague on the Mayflower?
No. The bubonic plague is nearly 100% contagious in close quarters like they had aboard ship and the symptoms that colonists died from did not match those of plague.
From what I've read, the fever that killed most of the colonists (over 50 the first winter) was characterized by high fever and delirium and lethargy. There's no mention of coughing and pneumonia. I'm not sure the specific illness has ever been identified, but it wasn't bubonic plague which is easily recognized and has different symptoms.
Reply:I know of no reason to think they would have, it isn't recorded that they did, and I also don't know of any outbreak of plague in the colony. The Bubonic Plague was eradicated in London shortly after the Mayflower's voyage by the Great Fire.
Moving: Of the major national movers (e.g., Mayflower, Allied, etc.): who has the best reputation?
I'm not so much concerned with saving money but I do want my stuff to arrive unbroken, unpilfered through, and on-time. This is for a cross-country move. Thanks in advance.
Moving: Of the major national movers (e.g., Mayflower, Allied, etc.): who has the best reputation?
I've moved with Mayflower, American, Red Ball, Allied, Global and Paul Arpin. Of these movers, I have to say Allied Van Lines did a wonderful job, came in at exactly the price they quoted, had only minor damage which they took care of repairing and did a great job packing the delicate collectibles and antiques.
Reply:most of the large van lines contract with companies in different areas with some sort of franchaise agreement. you would need to check with the BBB in a particular area.
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Moving: Of the major national movers (e.g., Mayflower, Allied, etc.): who has the best reputation?
I've moved with Mayflower, American, Red Ball, Allied, Global and Paul Arpin. Of these movers, I have to say Allied Van Lines did a wonderful job, came in at exactly the price they quoted, had only minor damage which they took care of repairing and did a great job packing the delicate collectibles and antiques.
Reply:most of the large van lines contract with companies in different areas with some sort of franchaise agreement. you would need to check with the BBB in a particular area.
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What two groups compromised the passengers on the mayflower?How wer they different from each other?
puritans who believed in a radical change in doctrine or the catholics the other goup would be the protestats who follwed the new religion of england
What two groups compromised the passengers on the mayflower?How wer they different from each other?
The Pilgrims had their security compromised very early in the voyage by both MI5 and the CIA, both of which managed to plant undercover agents through the clever use of buckle hats. The primary difference between MI5 and the CIA is that the former agency likes their sandwiches cut into triangles, while the latter prefers the more traditional rectangular cut.
Reply:Male and Female and they both were different, and both thought they were going the right way, and the guys just steered along without asking for directions as usual and here we are today. Still looking for answers and too stubborn to ask how we got here.
Just pulling your leg here with a bit of humour.
What two groups compromised the passengers on the mayflower?How wer they different from each other?
The Pilgrims had their security compromised very early in the voyage by both MI5 and the CIA, both of which managed to plant undercover agents through the clever use of buckle hats. The primary difference between MI5 and the CIA is that the former agency likes their sandwiches cut into triangles, while the latter prefers the more traditional rectangular cut.
Reply:Male and Female and they both were different, and both thought they were going the right way, and the guys just steered along without asking for directions as usual and here we are today. Still looking for answers and too stubborn to ask how we got here.
Just pulling your leg here with a bit of humour.
Why were the virginia house of burgesses, the mayflower compact, and the john peter zenger trial significant?
They were all significant in the founding of government and society in the United States.
The Virginia House of Burgesses was the first official government assembly in the United States, established in 1619 in Virginia. It was modelled on British parliament.
The Mayflower Compact was a document signed by the Pilgrims who crossed to America in the Mayflower in 1620. It was about the governing of their society, and is often seen as the foundation for the Constitution of the United States.
The John Peter Zenger trial in 1735 was about freedom of the press and freedom of speech in early America. The outcome of the trial helped to clarify the responsibilities of government and media in a functioning democracy. It also clarified the beliefs of early colonial life.
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Why were the virginia house of burgesses, the mayflower compact, and the john peter zenger trial significant?
i give in
Reply:The House of Burgesses was the first form of democratic government in the New World.
The Virginia House of Burgesses was the first official government assembly in the United States, established in 1619 in Virginia. It was modelled on British parliament.
The Mayflower Compact was a document signed by the Pilgrims who crossed to America in the Mayflower in 1620. It was about the governing of their society, and is often seen as the foundation for the Constitution of the United States.
The John Peter Zenger trial in 1735 was about freedom of the press and freedom of speech in early America. The outcome of the trial helped to clarify the responsibilities of government and media in a functioning democracy. It also clarified the beliefs of early colonial life.
This answer was provided by Enquire, a 24-hour, live question answering and enquiry service offered by public librarians across England and Scotland in collaboration with partners in the United States. If you liked our answer and would like us to help you find another, you can chat with one of us right now by clicking on Enquire on the People's Network site at http://www.peoplesnetwork.gov.uk
Why were the virginia house of burgesses, the mayflower compact, and the john peter zenger trial significant?
i give in
Reply:The House of Burgesses was the first form of democratic government in the New World.
How much is an authentic copy of the mayflower compact from 1966 worth?
about the same as an "authentic" 2007 copy
What was the 17th century like in New England for the pilgrims off the Mayflower?
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What was the 17th century like in New England for the pilgrims off the Mayflower?
Not good. they had come ill-prepared for life in New England, and most of the pilgrims did not have the skills to cope with life in a hostile environment, or the equipment. In 'made In America' Bill Bryson writes:
'It would be difficult to imagine a group of people more ill-suited to a life in the wilderness. They packed as if they had misunderstood the purpose of the trip. They found room for sundials and candle snuffers, a drum, a trumpet, and a complete history of Turkey. One William Mullins packed 126 pairs of shoes and 13 pairs of boots. Yet between them they failed to bring a single cow or horse or plough or fishing line. among the professions represented on the Mayflower were two tailors, a printer, seven merchants, a silk worker, a shopkeeper and a hatter - occupations whose importance is not immediately evident when one thinks of surviving in a hostile environment. Even those who labelelled themselves farmers generally had scant practical knowledge of husbandry, since farmer in the 1600s meant an owner of land rather than one who worked it.
They were, in short, dangerously unprepared for the rigours ahead, and they demonstrated their manifest incompetence in the most dramatic possible way, by dying in droves. Six expired in the first two weeks, eight the next month, seventeen more in February, a further thirteen in March. By April, when the Maflower set sail back to England, just fifty-four people, nearly half of them children, were left to begin the long work of turning this tenuous toehold into a self-sustaining colony.
At this remove, it is difficult to conceive just how alone this small, hapless band of adventurers was. Their nearest kindred neighbours - at jamestown in virginia and at a small colony at Cupers (now Cupids) in Newfoundland - were five hundred miles off in opposite directions.At their back stood a hostile ocean, and before them lay an inconceivably vast and unknown continent of 'wild and savage hue' in William Bradford's uneasy words. They were about as far from comforts of civilisation as anyone had ever been (certainly as far as anyone had ever been without a fishing line).
For two months they tried to make contact with the natives, but every time they spotted any, the Indians ran off. Then one day in February a young brave approached a party of Pilgrims on a beach. His name wa sSamoset and he was a stranger in the region himself, but he had a friend called Tisquantum from the Wampanoag tribe to whome he introduced them. Samoset and Tisquantum became the Pilgrims' fast friends. They showed them how to plant corn and catch wildfowl, and helped them to establish relations with the local chief'
While the men were establishing themselves as farmers, the women's contribution to colonial life was important as well. in 'America's women' Gail Collins writes:
'The house was the one place where a Colonial housewife could be in charge, the chief executive and artisan of a little factory producing the items the family needed to survive. The most time-consuming chore was the making of cloth, and it was also one of the most critical. Early on, fabric was in such short supply in America that there are records of court suits fought over a missing handkerchief of a hole burned in a blanket. the colonists regarded the production of cloth as crucuial to their survival.
Colonial cloth was made from wool or flax. Turning the flax into linen thread was an excruciating process in which the stalks were dried, combed, softened, cleaned, dried again, then "broken" to separate the fibres, pounded, cleaned and pounded again. The little mass of fiber that emerged fromall this was spun into thread on a small wheel with a hand pedal. The thread then had to be treated with repeated washing, rinsing, bleaching, and beating before it was ready for the loom. With wool, the women used a much larger wheel and stood to do the work. They performed a sort of graceful dance, gliding backward to draw out the newly spun yarn, then coming forward to let it wind onto the spindle. In a full day of spinning, a woman could walk over twenty miles.
Spinning was one of the jobs housewives most eagerly foised off on their daughters or servants. Cooking was naother duty they found particularly burdensome - it was both repetetive and diffcult to do well because the temperature of the fire could not be controlled. Women might have found their seasonal duties more interesting. In the autumn, they made apple butter and cider. When the pigs were butchered, they cleaned the intestines for sausage casting and stuffed them with meat scraps and herbs. they collected the fat to mix with lye for soap making - a long and arduous process that probablynever ranked high on anyone's list of favourite chores. the grease and lye were mixed together, outdoors, in a huge pot over an open fire. it took about six bushels of ashes and 24 pounds of grease to make one barrel of soap, which was soft, like clear jelly.
In the cold weather, the women made candles and brewed beer. In the spring, they planted theri kitchen gardens. they grew beans, cabbage, lettuce, parsnips, carrots, turnips, beets, cucumbers, radishes, onions, garlic, peppers, squash, peas, muskemelon, watermelon, pumpkins and a variety of herbs both for cooking and medicinal purposes. cheesmaking started in early summer. The dairy woman slowly heated several gallons of milk with rennet. In an hour or two, the curd formed and she worked in some butter, packed the mixture into a mold, and put it in a wooden press for an hour or so, changing and washing the cheesecloths as the whye dripped out. A housewife who could make good clean butter and cheese was a real boon to her family, creating a product that was not only valuable at home but in the marketplace. To be a good dairywoman was a fine art and hard work. Turning milk into butter required an hour or so at the churn followed by kneading and pressing with the hands or wooden paddles.
obviously most women weren't able to do all the housewifely tasks well. Someone who was good at cheese making might trade her wheels of cheese for cloth or meat or candles. A midwife or dressmaker might be paid for her services with a brace of geese or tub of sweet butter. Daughters were regularly "lent out" by their mothers to to help a neighbour with the spinning or harvest or nursing.
A competent housewife also earned the respect of her husband, who could see firsthand the value of her labors. The farmer who slaughtered a pig needed his wife to make the sausages, process the bacon, and preserve the pork. As he sat by the fireside at night, mending his fishing net or fixing his tools, he couold watch her turning the flax he had harvested and the wool he had sheared intot he family's clothes. The candles that lit their way to bed came from her hand, as did the vegetables, eggs, cheese and chickens they ate and the beer or cider they drank. they were very much parnters in the family business, and if the man was at all sensible he understood how critical his wife was to their mutual success.'
Reply:a whole lotta no fun
Reply:They arrived in the month of December and it was a very cold winter. They had to build houses and shelter so for themselves and decided that the place we now call Plymouth was the best spot.
It turns out to be very good but for a very sad reason. The tribe of Indians who had lived in that area had all died from the disease we call small pox.
They still need help farming and so forth. The soil in New England tends to be what they call hardscrabble which means there is a lot of granite rock and it is many times under only a inch or two of good farm land.
This was remedied by a friendly Indian named Squanto who taught them to use fish for fertilizer so that the capos would grow.
gert
What was the 17th century like in New England for the pilgrims off the Mayflower?
Not good. they had come ill-prepared for life in New England, and most of the pilgrims did not have the skills to cope with life in a hostile environment, or the equipment. In 'made In America' Bill Bryson writes:
'It would be difficult to imagine a group of people more ill-suited to a life in the wilderness. They packed as if they had misunderstood the purpose of the trip. They found room for sundials and candle snuffers, a drum, a trumpet, and a complete history of Turkey. One William Mullins packed 126 pairs of shoes and 13 pairs of boots. Yet between them they failed to bring a single cow or horse or plough or fishing line. among the professions represented on the Mayflower were two tailors, a printer, seven merchants, a silk worker, a shopkeeper and a hatter - occupations whose importance is not immediately evident when one thinks of surviving in a hostile environment. Even those who labelelled themselves farmers generally had scant practical knowledge of husbandry, since farmer in the 1600s meant an owner of land rather than one who worked it.
They were, in short, dangerously unprepared for the rigours ahead, and they demonstrated their manifest incompetence in the most dramatic possible way, by dying in droves. Six expired in the first two weeks, eight the next month, seventeen more in February, a further thirteen in March. By April, when the Maflower set sail back to England, just fifty-four people, nearly half of them children, were left to begin the long work of turning this tenuous toehold into a self-sustaining colony.
At this remove, it is difficult to conceive just how alone this small, hapless band of adventurers was. Their nearest kindred neighbours - at jamestown in virginia and at a small colony at Cupers (now Cupids) in Newfoundland - were five hundred miles off in opposite directions.At their back stood a hostile ocean, and before them lay an inconceivably vast and unknown continent of 'wild and savage hue' in William Bradford's uneasy words. They were about as far from comforts of civilisation as anyone had ever been (certainly as far as anyone had ever been without a fishing line).
For two months they tried to make contact with the natives, but every time they spotted any, the Indians ran off. Then one day in February a young brave approached a party of Pilgrims on a beach. His name wa sSamoset and he was a stranger in the region himself, but he had a friend called Tisquantum from the Wampanoag tribe to whome he introduced them. Samoset and Tisquantum became the Pilgrims' fast friends. They showed them how to plant corn and catch wildfowl, and helped them to establish relations with the local chief'
While the men were establishing themselves as farmers, the women's contribution to colonial life was important as well. in 'America's women' Gail Collins writes:
'The house was the one place where a Colonial housewife could be in charge, the chief executive and artisan of a little factory producing the items the family needed to survive. The most time-consuming chore was the making of cloth, and it was also one of the most critical. Early on, fabric was in such short supply in America that there are records of court suits fought over a missing handkerchief of a hole burned in a blanket. the colonists regarded the production of cloth as crucuial to their survival.
Colonial cloth was made from wool or flax. Turning the flax into linen thread was an excruciating process in which the stalks were dried, combed, softened, cleaned, dried again, then "broken" to separate the fibres, pounded, cleaned and pounded again. The little mass of fiber that emerged fromall this was spun into thread on a small wheel with a hand pedal. The thread then had to be treated with repeated washing, rinsing, bleaching, and beating before it was ready for the loom. With wool, the women used a much larger wheel and stood to do the work. They performed a sort of graceful dance, gliding backward to draw out the newly spun yarn, then coming forward to let it wind onto the spindle. In a full day of spinning, a woman could walk over twenty miles.
Spinning was one of the jobs housewives most eagerly foised off on their daughters or servants. Cooking was naother duty they found particularly burdensome - it was both repetetive and diffcult to do well because the temperature of the fire could not be controlled. Women might have found their seasonal duties more interesting. In the autumn, they made apple butter and cider. When the pigs were butchered, they cleaned the intestines for sausage casting and stuffed them with meat scraps and herbs. they collected the fat to mix with lye for soap making - a long and arduous process that probablynever ranked high on anyone's list of favourite chores. the grease and lye were mixed together, outdoors, in a huge pot over an open fire. it took about six bushels of ashes and 24 pounds of grease to make one barrel of soap, which was soft, like clear jelly.
In the cold weather, the women made candles and brewed beer. In the spring, they planted theri kitchen gardens. they grew beans, cabbage, lettuce, parsnips, carrots, turnips, beets, cucumbers, radishes, onions, garlic, peppers, squash, peas, muskemelon, watermelon, pumpkins and a variety of herbs both for cooking and medicinal purposes. cheesmaking started in early summer. The dairy woman slowly heated several gallons of milk with rennet. In an hour or two, the curd formed and she worked in some butter, packed the mixture into a mold, and put it in a wooden press for an hour or so, changing and washing the cheesecloths as the whye dripped out. A housewife who could make good clean butter and cheese was a real boon to her family, creating a product that was not only valuable at home but in the marketplace. To be a good dairywoman was a fine art and hard work. Turning milk into butter required an hour or so at the churn followed by kneading and pressing with the hands or wooden paddles.
obviously most women weren't able to do all the housewifely tasks well. Someone who was good at cheese making might trade her wheels of cheese for cloth or meat or candles. A midwife or dressmaker might be paid for her services with a brace of geese or tub of sweet butter. Daughters were regularly "lent out" by their mothers to to help a neighbour with the spinning or harvest or nursing.
A competent housewife also earned the respect of her husband, who could see firsthand the value of her labors. The farmer who slaughtered a pig needed his wife to make the sausages, process the bacon, and preserve the pork. As he sat by the fireside at night, mending his fishing net or fixing his tools, he couold watch her turning the flax he had harvested and the wool he had sheared intot he family's clothes. The candles that lit their way to bed came from her hand, as did the vegetables, eggs, cheese and chickens they ate and the beer or cider they drank. they were very much parnters in the family business, and if the man was at all sensible he understood how critical his wife was to their mutual success.'
Reply:a whole lotta no fun
Reply:They arrived in the month of December and it was a very cold winter. They had to build houses and shelter so for themselves and decided that the place we now call Plymouth was the best spot.
It turns out to be very good but for a very sad reason. The tribe of Indians who had lived in that area had all died from the disease we call small pox.
They still need help farming and so forth. The soil in New England tends to be what they call hardscrabble which means there is a lot of granite rock and it is many times under only a inch or two of good farm land.
This was remedied by a friendly Indian named Squanto who taught them to use fish for fertilizer so that the capos would grow.
gert
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